Well, this has many problems. I'm not very happy with they way his chest came out. I don't have enough consistency in the the hatching, but at the same time, I wanted to be opposing in certain areas. I guess I should have put more thought into it before I did it. I actually enjoyed doing this one in pencil more than I did in pen & ink, I think because I haven't done anything so involved in pen & ink before. I didn't know where to start, and when I finally did, I didn't know where to go from there, and I'm not even sure I'm finished, except for the fact that I don't want to do anymore to it - thus, I'm done. ;)