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Detroit QBs for 2004
CS #/Overall	CS Rating	Huddle Rating	Name	Draft Yr/Position	Physical Attributes	League Experience	Notes
#29	533.64	2.5	Joey Harrington	02/01-003	6-3.2-225#-25yrs-4.78/40	3rd yr	Unquestioned #1 QB
#35	486.39	NR	Mike McMahon	01/05-149	6-2.0-209#-25yrs-4.52/40	4th yr/Det	#2 QB
#46	470.11	2.0	Rick Mirer	93/01-002	6-3.0-214#-34yrs-4.77/40	12th yr/Sea, Chi, GB, NYJ, SF, Oak, Det	Clipboard holder/Vet
#134	331.12	NR	Curt Anes	03/UFA	6-0.5-225#-24yrs-4.92/40	1yr PSq Det, Allocated NFLe	40 time was effected by knee injury in college
#137	329.23	NR	Jason Fife	04/UFA	6-3.7-226#-23yrs-4.97/40	Rookie	Will have to show potential to make PSq

2004 FAs

CS Rating (rise/fall)	Huddle Rating	Name	Roster Status	FA Status	'03 Team	Draft Info Yr/Rd-#	Physical Attributes	NFL Exp.	Team Exp.	Health Concerns	Comments
NR	NR	Chris Redman	DNA	UFA	Baltimore	00/03-075	6'2.5"-223#-27yrs-5.02/40	5yr exp	Bal	back surgery 2002	CS rating was 397.87 & 417.69. Tentative and had trouble throwing the out in 2003. Passer Rating=26.0. Is a smart guy who doesn't take chances.
NR	NR	Shane Matthews	DNA	UFA	Cincinnati	93/FA	6'3"-195#-34yrs-4.98/40	11yr exp	Chi, Car, Chi, Was, TB, Cin		CS rating was 497.12 & 508.94 // 2002 Passer Rating=72.6
NR	4.55	Rob Johnson	DNA	UFA	Oakland	95/04-099	6'3.5"-216#-30yrs-4.78/40	9yr exp	Jax, Buf, TB, Was, Oak		CS Rating was 458.01 & the Huddle rated quite high. I don't believe he'll be back in the league, but he's a relatively young 30 yrs old for QB.
NR	NR	Scott Covington	DNA	UFA	St. Louis	99/07-245	6'2"/217#-28yrs-4.66/40	6yr exp	Cin, StL, KC, StL		CS ratings was 370.70 // 2002 Passer Rating=47.9
NR	NR	Randy Fasani	DNA	UFA (was EFA)	Buffalo	02/5-137	6'3"-234#-25yrs-x.x/40	2yr exp	Car, Buf
587.99	4.5	Rich Gannon	#1 QB	Under Contract	Oakland	87/04-098	6'2"/205#-38yrs-4.82/40	16yr exp	NE, Was, KC, Oak	Torn labrum surgery. Rumor is that he'll be cut before the season starts. But I doubt it.	CS Rating was 497.09. Now CS Rating=#13 QB

Signed/Unavailable

CS Rating Huddle
Rating Name Roster Order 04 Status '03 Team Drafted Yr/Rd Physical Attributes NFL Exp Team Exp Health Concerns Comments

NR NR Steve Beuerlein DNA retired Denver 87/04-110 6'3"-220#-39yrs-NR 17yr exp LAR, Dall, Ari, Jax, Car, Den, Car dislocated/fractured finger Den released, and he signed with Carolina to retire a Panther.

479.89 NR Jeff Blake #2 or 3 QB Philly: signed Arizona 92/06-166 6'1"/223#-33yrs-4.68/40 12yr exp NYj, Cin, NO, Bal, Arz, Phi 69.6 Passer Rating in 2003

543.27 2.0 Todd Bouman #2 QB NO: signed New Orleans 97/FA 6'2"/229#-31yrs-4.61/40 6yr exp Min, NO contract extension: 3-yrs

384.06 NR Travis Brown #2 QB Buff: re-signed RFA Buffalo 00/FA 6'3.3"-212#-27yrs-4.78/40 3yr exp Phi, Sea, Buf

579.30 3.5 Mark Brunell #1 QB Wash: 7yr/$43M Jacksonville 93/05-118 6'1"/217#-33yrs-4.78/40 11yr exp GB, Jax elbow-is fine now CS Rating was 345.10. CS Rating after move to Washington is the #18 overall QB.

654.98 6.60 Marc Bulger #1 QB St. L: Re-signed RFA:1st & 3rd St. Louis 00/06-168 6'1"/215#-26yrs-4.81/40 3yr exp NO, StL, Atl, StL arm, shoulder CS rating was 685.75 & 678.07. Now ranked #7 of all QBs.

485.61 2.5 Tim Couch #2 QB GB: signed Cleveland 99/01-001 6'5"/225#-26yrs-4.79/40 5yr exp Cle, GB Minor Knee - Dec. 5 Backs up Favre. CS Ranking=#37 QB

408.57 2.0 Ty Detmer #3 QB Atlanta: signed Detroit 92/09-230 6'0"-194#-36yrs-4.73/40 12yr exp GB, Phi, SF, Cle, Det, Atl CS rating was 447.69, then 408.57. Now in Atlanta CS rating=#41 QB.

431.64 4.50 A.J. Feeley #1 QB ? Miami Trade: 2nd rd pick in '05 Philadelphia 01/05-155 6'3"/225#-26yrs-4.85/40 3yr exp Phi, Mia CS Rating was 413.64 in Philly. CS Rating = #69 QB. Will compete to be #1 QB. Probably #2.

424.74 NR Doug Flutie #2 QB Under contract San Diego 85/11/285 5'10"-186#-41yrs-4.76/40 10yr exp StL, Chi, NE, Buf, SD CS Rating was 454.79 before arthroscopic surgery. Now CS Rating = #73 QB. Word is that Methuselah may be let go and would be interested in going back to Canada

584.16 4.0 Jeff Garcia #1 QB Cleveland: signed 99/FA 6'1"-200#-34yrs-4.76/40 6yr exp SF, Cle .

409.04 HR David Garrard #2 QB Under Contract Jacksonville 02/04-108 6'1.3"/240#-25yrs-4.77/40 2yr exp Jax They would still like to trade him if someone gives them a good offer. Crohns disease has reduced his value. Athletic & moves feet well + good arm strength. CS Rating= #81 QB. Rating was 461.19 before surgery.

438.82 NR Jason Garrett #3 QB Tampa: signed New York Giants 89/FA 6'2"/205#-38yrs -4.77/40 12yr exp NO, Dal, NYg CS rating was 499.94, 470.52, then 452.64. CS Rating now=#67 QB. Considered 4th string/asst. coach

462.25 2.0 Brian Griese #2 QB Tampa: signed 3yr deal (but is really 1yr) Miami 98/03-091 6'3"/214#-28yrs-4.95/40 7yr exp Den, Mia, TB - 69.2 Passer Rating in 2003. 462.25 CS Rating. CS Rating now - #62 QB.

488.56 NR Brock Huard #3 QB Sea: signed Indy 99/03-077 6'5"-232#-28yrs-4.95/40 6yr exp Sea, Ind, Sea 8/5/04: Back Spasms

521.64 4.35 Damon Huard #2 QB Kansas City: signed New England 96/FA 6'3"/215#-31yrs-4.90/40 8yr exp Cin, Mia, NE NR

486.25 NR Doug Johnson #2QB Jaguars: signed Atlanta 00/FA 6'2"-225#-26yrs-4.82/40 4yr exp Atl Neck-wk 17 Got starting experience when Vick injured, but wasn't very good. Struggled with making quick reads, and pressed in 3rd & long situations. Pocket passer.

468.47 4.30 Shaun King #2 QB Ariz: signed Tampa 99/02-050 6'0"/225#-26yrs-4.72/40 5yr exp TB, AZ CS rating was 490.19 and 473.15.

900.16 9.25 Peyton Manning #1 QB Signed 7yr/$99.2M Indianapolis 98/01-001 6'5"/230#-27yrs-4.87/40 6yr exp Ind minor finger & elbow Colts said that they wouldl make him the richest man in the NFL and they did. CS rating was 763.25 prior to playoffs.

368.61 Tamaurice Martin #3 QB Oak: re-signed RFA: 5th Oakland 00/05-163 6'1"-225#-25yrs-4.56/40 3yr exp Pit, Phi, Oak Not viewed very highly as a QB around the league. Has fallen to #4 QB with acquisition of Kerry Collins.

488.79 4.30 Mike McMahon #2 QB Det: Re-signed RFA: 1st Detroit 01/05-149 6'2"/209#-24yrs-4.52/40 3yr exp Det .

487.22 Rick Mirer #1 QB Lions: signed Oakland 93/01-002 6'3"/210#-34yrs-4.77/40 12yr exp Sea, Chi, GB, NYj, SF, Oak Neck-wk 16 Got his chance with Gannon injured, but showed backup production. 64.8 Passing Rating. Lions=1 year contract.

NR NR Ray Lucas QB released Miami Oakland is looking at him

462.96 4.20 Jesse Palmer #3 QB NYG: Resigned RFA: 4th New York Giants 01/04-125 6'2"/225#-25yrs-4.68/40 3yr exp NYg CS rating was 468.34, then 461.25

463.60 Doug Pederson #2 QB GB: re-signed Green Bay 91/FA 6'3"/220#-35yrs-4.92/40 11yr exp Mia, Car, Mia, GB, Phi, Cle, GB Good friends with Favre. Journeyman. Green Bay toyed with drafting a QB (Grossman), so not out of the question that Pederson leaves the bay.

481.93 Jonathan Quinn #3 QB Chicago: signed Kansas City 98/03-086 6'6"/243#-28yrs-4.77/40 6yr exp Jax, KC

432.73 Sage Rosenfels #2 QB Miami: Re-signed RFA: 4th Miami 01/04-109 6'4"/222#-25yrs-4.79/40 3yr exp Was, Mia Rumor is that Dolphins were ready to draft somebody in 2004. Sage has a strong arm and improved greatly during the last year's offseason. Release of Griese makes him #3

462.47 NR Kordell Stewart #2 QB Balt: signed Chicago 95/02-060 6'1"/218#-31yrs- 10yr exp Pit, Chi, Bal Baltimore backup QB situation needs help.

443.68 NR Vinny Testaverde #1 QB Dall: signed NYJ 87/01-001 6'4.7"-237#-40yrs-5.34/40 18yr exp TB, Cle, Bal, NYj, Dal With QC's release, Vinny moves to #1

413.43 4.45 Billy Volek #2 QB: IR Titans: re-signed Tennessee 00/FA 6'2"/214#-27yrs-4.86/40 4yr exp Ten collarbone, ribs, spleen-wk 16 CS rating was 382.54, and I think he's more highly rated by NFL scouts. Word was before his injuries that he would be a highly sought after mid-level QB. Good mobility & great arm. Titans $16M over the cap.

558.88 NR Kurt Warner #1 QB NYG: signed 2yr/9.5M St. Louis 94/FA 6'2"/222#-33yrs-4.96/40 6yr exp GB, StL, NYG hand, concussions Caretaker for Eli Manning. Contract probably turns out to be a 1yr 3.5M (2M base)

485.96 4.30 Anthony Wright #2 QB Balt: re-signed Baltimore 99/FA 6'1"-211#-27yrs-4.72/40 4yr exp Pit, Dal, Bal shoulder-Nov 28 CS rating was 413.86, then 474.65. Looks like they expect Boller to be QB of the future, but Billick pushing to retain Wright. No problem with $ cap. AW's mobility is overrated, and not as quick as Boller's. Looks like he's insurance for Boller. Locks on WR.

. NR Danny Wuerffel retired Officially retired, don't bug him

Information Compiled:

Sources Used:

Ratings and Measureables:

Couch Scout

Roster Status, Draft Info, NFL & Team Experience

Ourlads

Health/Injury Status:

KFFL

Contract Status:

NFLpa

Print version of PFW

FanHome Message Board

Comments:

CBSSportsLine's Elite 11 (article by Jay Glazer 12/10/03)

KFFL , PFW

NinerFanatic Transactions

Other 2004 FA Lists:

NFL Draft Blitz (Notables Only)

Netrat's NFL FA & Lion's FA

The Huddle Report (Top 10 Pos.)

CS Rating	Huddle Rating	Name	Roster Order	04 Status	'03 Team	Drafted Yr/Rd	Physical Attributes	NFL Exp	Team Exp	Health Concerns	Comments
NR	NR	Steve Beuerlein	DNA	retired	Denver	87/04-110	6'3"-220#-39yrs-NR	17yr exp	LAR, Dall, Ari, Jax, Car, Den, Car	dislocated/fractured finger	Den released, and he signed with Carolina to retire a Panther.
479.89	NR	Jeff Blake	#2 or 3 QB	Philly: signed	Arizona	92/06-166	6'1"/223#-33yrs-4.68/40	12yr exp	NYj, Cin, NO, Bal, Arz, Phi		69.6 Passer Rating in 2003
543.27	2.0	Todd Bouman	#2 QB	NO: signed	New Orleans	97/FA	6'2"/229#-31yrs-4.61/40	6yr exp	Min, NO		contract extension: 3-yrs
384.06	NR	Travis Brown	#2 QB	Buff: re-signed RFA	Buffalo	00/FA	6'3.3"-212#-27yrs-4.78/40	3yr exp	Phi, Sea, Buf
579.30	3.5	Mark Brunell	#1 QB	Wash: 7yr/$43M	Jacksonville	93/05-118	6'1"/217#-33yrs-4.78/40	11yr exp	GB, Jax	elbow-is fine now	CS Rating was 345.10. CS Rating after move to Washington is the #18 overall QB.
654.98	6.60	Marc Bulger	#1 QB	St. L: Re-signed RFA:1st & 3rd	St. Louis	00/06-168	6'1"/215#-26yrs-4.81/40	3yr exp	NO, StL, Atl, StL	arm, shoulder	CS rating was 685.75 & 678.07. Now ranked #7 of all QBs.
485.61	2.5	Tim Couch	#2 QB	GB: signed	Cleveland	99/01-001	6'5"/225#-26yrs-4.79/40	5yr exp	Cle, GB	Minor Knee - Dec. 5	Backs up Favre. CS Ranking=#37 QB
408.57	2.0	Ty Detmer	#3 QB	Atlanta: signed	Detroit	92/09-230	6'0"-194#-36yrs-4.73/40	12yr exp	GB, Phi, SF, Cle, Det, Atl		CS rating was 447.69, then 408.57. Now in Atlanta CS rating=#41 QB.
431.64	4.50	A.J. Feeley	#1 QB ?	Miami Trade: 2nd rd pick in '05	Philadelphia	01/05-155	6'3"/225#-26yrs-4.85/40	3yr exp	Phi, Mia		CS Rating was 413.64 in Philly. CS Rating = #69 QB. Will compete to be #1 QB. Probably #2.
424.74	NR	Doug Flutie	#2 QB	Under contract	San Diego	85/11/285	5'10"-186#-41yrs-4.76/40	10yr exp	StL, Chi, NE, Buf, SD	CS Rating was 454.79 before arthroscopic surgery. Now CS Rating = #73 QB.	Word is that Methuselah may be let go and would be interested in going back to Canada
584.16	4.0	Jeff Garcia	#1 QB	Cleveland: signed	99/FA	6'1"-200#-34yrs-4.76/40	6yr exp	SF, Cle			.
409.04	HR	David Garrard	#2 QB	Under Contract	Jacksonville	02/04-108	6'1.3"/240#-25yrs-4.77/40	2yr exp	Jax	They would still like to trade him if someone gives them a good offer. Crohns disease has reduced his value.	Athletic & moves feet well + good arm strength. CS Rating= #81 QB. Rating was 461.19 before surgery.
438.82	NR	Jason Garrett	#3 QB	Tampa: signed	New York Giants	89/FA	6'2"/205#-38yrs -4.77/40	12yr exp	NO, Dal, NYg		CS rating was 499.94, 470.52, then 452.64. CS Rating now=#67 QB. Considered 4th string/asst. coach
462.25	2.0	Brian Griese	#2 QB	Tampa: signed 3yr deal (but is really 1yr)	Miami	98/03-091	6'3"/214#-28yrs-4.95/40	7yr exp	Den, Mia, TB	-	69.2 Passer Rating in 2003. 462.25 CS Rating. CS Rating now - #62 QB.
488.56	NR	Brock Huard	#3 QB	Sea: signed	Indy	99/03-077	6'5"-232#-28yrs-4.95/40	6yr exp	Sea, Ind, Sea	8/5/04: Back Spasms
521.64	4.35	Damon Huard	#2 QB	Kansas City: signed	New England	96/FA	6'3"/215#-31yrs-4.90/40	8yr exp	Cin, Mia, NE		NR
486.25	NR	Doug Johnson	#2QB	Jaguars: signed	Atlanta	00/FA	6'2"-225#-26yrs-4.82/40	4yr exp	Atl	Neck-wk 17	Got starting experience when Vick injured, but wasn't very good. Struggled with making quick reads, and pressed in 3rd & long situations. Pocket passer.
468.47	4.30	Shaun King	#2 QB	Ariz: signed	Tampa	99/02-050	6'0"/225#-26yrs-4.72/40	5yr exp	TB, AZ		CS rating was 490.19 and 473.15.
900.16	9.25	Peyton Manning	#1 QB	Signed 7yr/$99.2M	Indianapolis	98/01-001	6'5"/230#-27yrs-4.87/40	6yr exp	Ind	minor finger & elbow	Colts said that they wouldl make him the richest man in the NFL and they did. CS rating was 763.25 prior to playoffs.
368.61		Tamaurice Martin	#3 QB	Oak: re-signed RFA: 5th	Oakland	00/05-163	6'1"-225#-25yrs-4.56/40	3yr exp	Pit, Phi, Oak		Not viewed very highly as a QB around the league. Has fallen to #4 QB with acquisition of Kerry Collins.
488.79	4.30	Mike McMahon	#2 QB	Det: Re-signed RFA: 1st	Detroit	01/05-149	6'2"/209#-24yrs-4.52/40	3yr exp	Det		.
487.22		Rick Mirer	#1 QB	Lions: signed	Oakland	93/01-002	6'3"/210#-34yrs-4.77/40	12yr exp	Sea, Chi, GB, NYj, SF, Oak	Neck-wk 16	Got his chance with Gannon injured, but showed backup production. 64.8 Passing Rating. Lions=1 year contract.
NR	NR	Ray Lucas	QB	released	Miami						Oakland is looking at him
462.96	4.20	Jesse Palmer	#3 QB	NYG: Resigned RFA: 4th	New York Giants	01/04-125	6'2"/225#-25yrs-4.68/40	3yr exp	NYg		CS rating was 468.34, then 461.25
463.60		Doug Pederson	#2 QB	GB: re-signed	Green Bay	91/FA	6'3"/220#-35yrs-4.92/40	11yr exp	Mia, Car, Mia, GB, Phi, Cle, GB		Good friends with Favre. Journeyman. Green Bay toyed with drafting a QB (Grossman), so not out of the question that Pederson leaves the bay.
481.93		Jonathan Quinn	#3 QB	Chicago: signed	Kansas City	98/03-086	6'6"/243#-28yrs-4.77/40	6yr exp	Jax, KC
432.73		Sage Rosenfels	#2 QB	Miami: Re-signed RFA: 4th	Miami	01/04-109	6'4"/222#-25yrs-4.79/40	3yr exp	Was, Mia		Rumor is that Dolphins were ready to draft somebody in 2004. Sage has a strong arm and improved greatly during the last year's offseason. Release of Griese makes him #3
462.47	NR	Kordell Stewart	#2 QB	Balt: signed	Chicago	95/02-060	6'1"/218#-31yrs-	10yr exp	Pit, Chi, Bal		Baltimore backup QB situation needs help.
443.68	NR	Vinny Testaverde	#1 QB	Dall: signed	NYJ	87/01-001	6'4.7"-237#-40yrs-5.34/40	18yr exp	TB, Cle, Bal, NYj, Dal		With QC's release, Vinny moves to #1
413.43	4.45	Billy Volek	#2 QB: IR	Titans: re-signed	Tennessee	00/FA	6'2"/214#-27yrs-4.86/40	4yr exp	Ten	collarbone, ribs, spleen-wk 16	CS rating was 382.54, and I think he's more highly rated by NFL scouts. Word was before his injuries that he would be a highly sought after mid-level QB. Good mobility & great arm. Titans $16M over the cap.
558.88	NR	Kurt Warner	#1 QB	NYG: signed 2yr/9.5M	St. Louis	94/FA	6'2"/222#-33yrs-4.96/40	6yr exp	GB, StL, NYG	hand, concussions	Caretaker for Eli Manning. Contract probably turns out to be a 1yr 3.5M (2M base)
485.96	4.30	Anthony Wright	#2 QB	Balt: re-signed	Baltimore	99/FA	6'1"-211#-27yrs-4.72/40	4yr exp	Pit, Dal, Bal	shoulder-Nov 28	CS rating was 413.86, then 474.65. Looks like they expect Boller to be QB of the future, but Billick pushing to retain Wright. No problem with $ cap. AW's mobility is overrated, and not as quick as Boller's. Looks like he's insurance for Boller. Locks on WR.
.	NR	Danny Wuerffel		retired							Officially retired, don't bug him

Information Compiled:	Sources Used:
Ratings and Measureables:	Couch Scout
Roster Status, Draft Info, NFL & Team Experience	Ourlads
Health/Injury Status:	KFFL
Contract Status:	NFLpa
	Print version of PFW
	FanHome Message Board
Comments:	CBSSportsLine's Elite 11 (article by Jay Glazer 12/10/03)
	KFFL , PFW
	NinerFanatic Transactions
Other 2004 FA Lists:	NFL Draft Blitz (Notables Only)
	Netrat's NFL FA & Lion's FA
	The Huddle Report (Top 10 Pos.)