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Date of Mock
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Draft Site Name w/Link
(Author)
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Round 1-Lion's #6
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Round 2-Lion's #36
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Round 3-Lion's #73
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4.23.04
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Bengals Zone
(Higdon)
Vs. 1
,
Vs. 2
,
Vs. 3
,
(Cannot find Vs. 4)
Vs. 5
,
Vs. 6
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Roy Williams, WR, Texas;
Kellen Winslow, WR, Miami (fl);
Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pitts;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
They haven't done much to convince me that Roy Williams would be the pick instead
of Sean Taylor (whom they have going one pick later). If Sean Taylor is gone, then Kenechi
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Greg Jones, RB, Fl. St.
no change,
was N/A, no change,
was Maurice Clarett, RB, xOhio St
They haven't done much to convince me that Greg Jones should be the pick instead
of Justin Smiley, Chris Snee, Karlos Dansby, Ben Watson or even a DT like Donnell Washington,
Tim Anderson, or Dwan Edwards (who I wouldn't pick in the second round, but I sure
would pick him before Greg Jones!).
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Demorrio Williams, LB, Nebraska
was N/A
They got one right! Except, if Teddy Lehman fell this far I would say they would take him
over Demorrio. I also don't like the Barrett Green clone reference. Yikes.
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4.23.04
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Fantasy
Insights
(
Jaworowski
)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
<.i>was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl)
Rick waffles back and forth on who the Redskins will take, which leaves
the other for the Lions. At least he doesn't have the Lions passing over Sean
to get Kellen, like some.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.23.04
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Fantasy Tailgate
(Washington based fantasy guys)
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#21 in trade w/Pats:
Kevin Jones
#32 in trade w/Pats:
OC Jake Grove
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
These guys sure do believe in trades. It's fun to speculate,
but I don't believe it's realistic. If we can dream I'd rather trade with Jags for #9,
Pittsburgh for #11, or (more realistically)
Denver for #17 and another 2nd rounder to have a chance at Reggie
Williams, Michael Clayton or DJ Williams (I do not think Vilma is all that,
though the Lions do from all reports. Of course if you belive reports they
would be picking Steven Jackson at #6--Yikes).
I guess Jones would be a worthwhile pick at #21 (though I would rather
they wait until next year), but it would be hard to pass up Vince Wilfork who
is a top ten pick IMO, Ben Troupe or Rashaun Woods. Jason Babin,
Karlos Dansby and Justin Smiley seem more likely than Grove. Still,
I like the idea of getting two 1st rounders for the #6.Too bad Bill Belichick
won't cooperate.
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4.22.04
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CBS
Sportsline NFL
(Prisco:
Vs. 1
,
Vs. 2
,
Vs. 3
,
Vs. 4
)
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Sean Taylor, S, Miami
no change,
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech.
As hard as I try to like a guy who gives Taylor to the Lions,
he always says somethings to raise my hackles. He thinks
Kellen Winslow is the best player in this draft. WHAT!
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N/A |
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4.22.04
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Fox Sports
(Experts' Choice) (
Vs. 3.0
,
Vs. 4.0
,
Vs. 5
,
Vs. 6
,
Vs. 7
,
Vs. 8
,
Vs. 9
,
Vs. 10
,
Vs. 11
,
Vs. 12
,
Vs. 13
.)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change, no change,
no change, no change, no change,
no change, no change;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change,
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami;
These guys have one of the worst
draft coverages around IMO. They offer little in the way
of original analysis and haven't met a hype they didn't
like. They have little credibility with most serious draftniks.
But if you value quantity over quality, they're your guys.
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Premium access only: N/A
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N/A
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4.22.04
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GBN Draft Report
(Lindsay)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Mike Williams, WR, USC
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change;
was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)
I respect Lindsay's opinion, but I believe this would be one of the biggest
mistakes of the Millen era.
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Dontarrious Thomas, LB, Auburn
was Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn
was Lee Evans, WR, Wisconsin;
was Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.;
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM
LB is a need and he could play inside or out, but I don't
know if he's even the best LB on the board with Lehman & Daryl
Smith still there. Nevertheless without a doubt, Rashaun Woods,
Ben Watson & Jason Babin would not be passed over for Don.
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Tatum Bell, RB, Okl. St
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM
was N/A
Well, Tatum is a good pick, but Keary Colbert might be a better one
if they don't pick a WR earlier. Chris Snee, Sean Locklear, Courtney Watson,
PK Sam, Bernard Berrian, Cedric Cobbs & Ernest Wilford would all be
considerations based on who he has left going in the 3rd round.
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4.22.04
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NFL Players Inc
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Sean Taylor, S, Miami
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change
They've finally come around and admit that Jackson
would be a stretch at #6. I hope he is still around and that Snyder
has fallen in love with Winslow II.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.22.04
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NY
Football Digest
(Secor) Vs. 5.0
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
no change,
was Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
I respect what Secor has to say, so maybe I'll accept Winslow being
drafted by the Lions. But I don't pretend to like it. Yet, he admits that "I
am not sure the TE position is a must need for the Lions."
Secor also says Udeze could be a top 10 selection, too.
Additionally, he also agrees with me that Reggie
Williams (without Mike Williams (*me)) "could end up being
the best reciever in this class." This is quite a concession, considering he is
from Larry Fitzgerald country. This confirms my opinion about both
of these guys (Udeze or Reggie W) being acceptable value at #6.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.21.04
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The Dallas Cowboys.net
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
no change
Whatever. This is just another Cowboy fan who
doesn't care much about what the Lions would value in this draft.
Just like I could care less about the Cowboy's needs.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.21.04
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Draft Ace's Mock Draft
4 rds
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Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St
was Will Smith, DE, Ohio St.;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change, no change
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St
I feel like I'm in a time warp here. Back to Steven Jackson,
with Sean Taylor still on the board? Brock Marion is nice, but Brian Walker is not.
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Michael Boulware, OLB, Fl. St.Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.;was Dontarrious Thomas, OLB,
Auburn;
no change, no change; no change
I'd feel better about the Lions picking Boulware if he actually liked to hit people. He's got a
lot of physical talent, so depending on who else is available this makes some sense...especially
if they're drafting him to play SS and have somebody who can motivate him to hit.
He seems to avoid it as much as possible from what I've seen. I appreciate a SS and LB that know how to hit.
Now, if Kevin Jones, Michael Clayton, or Ben Watson are all sitting there, as they do in this mock,
I would take Michael Clayton ... as much as I don't want to hear about Clinton Portis
Jr. (KJ mourners) from the WhatIf Club next year.
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Ernest Wilford, WR, Virginia Tech
Keiwan Ratliff, CB, Florida;
was Chris Snee, OG, Boston Col;
was N/A
WR is a good choice in the 3rd round if somebody dropped to the
2nd round who shouldn't have. I would probably put Keary Colbert
& Devard Darling ahead of Wilford, but that's a personal preference.
I could also see an OL being taken here (OG/OC Nick Leckey, OG
Chris Snee, OT Kelly Butler, OT Travelle Wharton, OT Stacey Andrews)
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4.21.04
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Draft King
(Lou Pickney)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change,
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change,
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change, no change
Am I really the only one who thinks Winslow is overrated?
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N/A
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N/A
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4.21.04
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Draft Studio
(Jesse Ballard)
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Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
was Mike Williams, WR, USC;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was Roy Williams, WR, Texas;
no change,
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl)
Help! I'm sinking!
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Antwan Odom, DE, Alabama
was Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn;
was N/A,
was Maurice Clarett, RB, xOhio St.;
no change,
was Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.
Now that's what I'm talking about! Take the BPA at a position of
need! Tough to pass on Rashaun Woods, but there are more worthy
WRs than DEs in this draft. I could maybe even see another team trading
up for one of the last every down DEs left in this draft.
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Chris Cooley, Utah State, TE
was N/A
I've seen a lot of people ranking him in the 4th round so this seems a little high.
I've never seen him play, so I don't have a clue on this one. Those who might be better
fits who are left on his draft board are Bernard Berrian, Ernest Wilford, Tatum Bell,
Sean Locklear, Tatum Bell, and Keiwan Ratliff.
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4.21.04
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Q.I. Sports
(QI Staff) Will be moving
here
soon.
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Steven Jackson, Oregon St.;
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change,
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change, no change, no change;
was DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech
This would seriously bite. This mock drafter
believes the rumors about all the teams trying to move
up for Jackson. SMOKE!!! Which is worse: picking Kellen
Winslow or Steven Jackson? Honestly, I'm torn, but I'm
leaning toward Jackson being the worst pick I've seen lately.
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N/A
was Greg Jones, RB, FSU;
was Chris Perry, RB, UM;
was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama;
was Ahmad Carroll, CB, Arkansas;
no change, no change,
was Nathan Vasher, CB, Texas;
was Dunta Robinson, CB, S.Carolina
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N/A.
was Sean Locklear, OG, NC St.;
no change,
was Julius Jones, RB, Notre Dame;
was Devery Henderson, WR, LSU;
no change, no change,
was Keary Colbert, WR, USC;
was Julius Jones, RB, Notre Dame
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4.21.04
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Vikings Insider
(John Holler) Vs. 8.0
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
yawn. "perfect fit in the West Coast Offense
favored by coach Steve Mariucci." Really?
And the proof is? Who are all the other marquee
(read expensive) TEs Mooch has used?
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4.20.04
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Ask the Commish
(Computer)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Roy Williams, WR, Tex;
no change,
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change, no change, no change
If Taylor IS gone (which is looking more likely);
Udeze, Will Smith or Reggie Williams would all be better picks for the Lions,
IMO, even if they cannot trade down. Getting them in a trade-down would be even better.
Winslow is more hype than production and both Bens have as much talent as he has.
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Michael Clayton, WR, LSU
Chris Perry, RB, UM;
no change
was Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio St.;
was Keiwan Ratliff, CB, Florida;
no change, no change,
was Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio St.
This is a much better pick, though if they don't take Winslow first
Troupe would be a great choice here (since he is still on the draft
board in this scenario).
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Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.
was Brandon Everage, FS, Oklahoma;
was Jason Shivers, FS, Purdue;
Bo Schobel, DE, TCU;
was Stephen Peterman, OG, LSU;
no change,
was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama,
was Nick Leckey, C, Kansas St.
Tatum Bell in the 3rd round is good value, but I would also be happy with a LB
(Demorrio Williams, Courney Watson, Darryl Smith, Rod Smith),
or OL (The best OGs went early in this mock leaving Travell Wharton
& Sean Locklear as next best) who are left on his board.
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4.20.04
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CBS Sportsline NFL
(Dodd:
Vs. 1
,
Vs. 2
)
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Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
Thanks for catching up with the rest of the mockers, Dennis. It's about time
you put Sean Taylor in for the Lions, but your next draft probably pushes Taylor
up to Washington...like almost every other draft lately. Now, how long will it take for you
to drop Roethlisberger out of the top 5? You probably can't tell, but I'm
being just a tad sarcastic.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.20.04
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East Coast Sports News
(Al Fronczak)
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Trade w/ Texans: #10, #71 & #138:
Steven Jackson
was Kenechi Udezi, DE, USC;
no changewas Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was (w/trade) Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio St.
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (FL);
was Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio St.
Trading down for Jackson is about the only thing that would make this pick
sufferable. Losing out on Taylor #8 and Udeze #9 would make this draft trade
not worth it. I'm all for a draft trade, but this one just doesn't seem like enough
without the 2nd round pick. I know the extra 3rd rounder is inviting, but getting Jackson
instead of Taylor would be a severe drop-off. Of course, if they took Will Smith,
DJ Williams or Reggie Williams with this pick it would put a different complexion on it:
DEs are going to be very valuable come draft day, because of the lack of depth at
the position. DJ Williams is the perfect LB fit for the Lions (better than the much talked
about Vilma), IMO, since he could play SLB or MLB. And Reggie is the best Williams
WR left in the draft. (Yep, better than the legend.)
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Sean Jones, S, Georgia
was Chris Perry, RB, UM;
was N/A
This is an alright pick for #36 but considering the state of the Lion Safeties I'm not sure it
is where they would go. If Antwan Odom or Ben Watson are there, as in this mock, I don't
think the Lions would be able to pass both of them for a FS.
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N/A
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4.20.04
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The Huddle Report
(Aaron Freeman) 1 rd, was 3 rds
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was w/trade to #14: Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl).;
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
Yawn. Is it Saturday, yet? Winslow over Taylor? Jeesh.
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N/A
[was w/trade to #41(+4th rd):
Dontarrious Thomas, LB, Auburn &
w/ trade from 1st round #47:
Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio St.]
was Joey Thomas, CB, Montana St.;
was N/A
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N/A
was Sean Locklear, OG, NC State;
was Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.;
was N/A
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4.20.04
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Inside the Eagles
(Pilla)
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Mike Williams, WR, USC;
no change
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change
I guess we'll see if he sticks with a WR or whether he'll move Taylor (YES!)
up into Mike Williams' spot..
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Greg Jones, RB, FSU;
no change
was Rashaun Woods, WR, Oklahoma St.;
was N/A
Once again a mocker reaches for a RB for the Lions, leaving
better players to slide down. Only this time Rashaun Woods joins
Ben Watson, Justin Smiley, Donnell Washington, Jason Babin,
& Teddy Lehman in the passed over department. Rashaun would
be a no-brainer here.
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4.20.04
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NFL Draft Countdown
(Scott Wright)
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Steven Jackson, RB, Ore. St.
Will Smith, DE, Ohio St;
no change,
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change.
As Wright admits, this is too high for Jackson & as he also says,
it seems more likely that the Lions will take a nice trade offer rather
than reach for a player. I do NOT see Jackson as being a good fit
for the Lions, in any case. If they're bound and determined to take
a RB in the first round (doubtful) I think it should be Kevin Jones,
despite the poor workout times.
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Ben Troupe, TE, FL
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change, no change,
was Vernon Carey, OG, Miami (fl);
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change
YES! Ben Troupe would be a great value here.
If Rashaun Woods were available as his draft board
plays out I think that would be a better pick. But that's quibling.
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Sean Locklear, OG, NC St.
was Demorrio Williams, OLB, Nebraska;
no change
was Isaac Hilton, DE, Hampton;
was Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.;
was Nick Leckey, C, Kansas St.;
was Isaac Hilton, DE, Hampton;
was Shaun Phillips, DE, Purdue
Frankly, any of the guys that Wright has mentioned as
possible 3rd rounders over the past weeks (except for Phillips)
would make sense here. He could have also thrown ILB Courtney Watson,
WR Derrick Hamilton, Devard Darling and DT Tim Anderson into this discussion
and it would make equal sense. Obviously, finding an OG is a priority, but I think
FA is still an option as temporary solutions. It would be difficult to fill all the holes in one year.
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4.20.04
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Patriots.4T
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
no change,
was Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma;
no change
Apparently they believe KWII will push the Lion offense into the "great" category to "cancel out the average Defense".
Hallucinagenics are dangerous things to play with.
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Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change, no change
If Kevin Jones is there, it's a no brainer. But what is everyone smoking?
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4.20.04
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Walter's Football Site
(W. Cherepinsky, now 4 rds)
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Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
no change,
was Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change, no change
Wait, before you say "NO WAY" read his reasoning. He actually did
some homework on this one. Because of losing Ellis he sees a need
for DT. What he doesn't factor in is having drafted Cory Redding last
year, but he could also argue that Redding is unproven at DT and Harris
would be an upgrade...and he would be right. He also mentions that Udeze
could be a consideration here, or trading down to draft Steven Jackson.
I like the thought process he used, just don't agree with his conclusion.
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Chris Perry, RB, UofM
Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
no change,
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change, no change, no change
About the only way a RB gets selected here is if Kevin Jones somehow slips
through, which doesn't seem likely to me...but then who thought Boss Bailey
would slip last year. Tatum Bell (sometimes seen in 2nd round mocks) &
Julius Jones would also be a better fits for the Lions and they are slated
for the 3rd round in most mocks (including his).
Karlos Dansby, Jason Babin, Donnell Washington,
Devery Henderson, Teddy Lehman, Jake Grove,
Justin Smiley would be better 2nd round value based upon his
draft board. Also, Ben Watson slipping into the 3rd round doesn't
seem likely...see next column.
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Chris Snee, OG, Boston College;
no change, no change, no change,
was Shannon Snell, OG, Florida;
was N/A
While Chris Snee would be a great choice for the third round, and I could actually
see an OG falling to here in the draft, I cannot see them passing on Ben Watson again.
Demorrio Williams--who may be as good as Vilma, IMO-- and Courtney Watson would
also be tough to pass over for an OG.
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4.19.04
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AllSorts Sports
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;
Gag & double gag.
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Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
was Teddy Lehman, OLB, Oklahoma
Ben Watson, Devery Henderson, Dontarrious Thomas, Jason Babin,
Justin Smiley, Sean Jones, Jacke Grove, Marcus Tubbs, Donnell Washington...
would make taking Chris Perry here a homer-like reach.
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N/A
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4.19.04
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CNN SI NFL
(Cross)
Vs 1
,
Vs 2
,
Vs 3
,
Vs 4
,
Vs 5
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;
was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
Cross speculates that Winslow only goes this high if the Lions
cannot trade down ...for Steven Jackson (ha). Well, he's partiallly right.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.19.04
|
Fantasy Football Toolbox
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change
See comments above about Winslow
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N/A
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N/A
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4.19.04
|
The Huddle Report
(
Robby Esch
1 round / no trade)
|
Roy Williams, WR, Texas;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
was, with trade to #14, Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami;
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
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N/A
was #36: Lee Evans, WR, Wisc & (W/trade) #47: Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama;
was N/A;
was Chris Perry, RB, UM;
was N/A |
N/A
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4.19.04
|
NFL Players Association
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change.
See comments above about Winslow
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N/A
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N/A
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4.19.04
|
900 Football Links
(
Big Mike Dee
)
|
Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl)
no change
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N/A
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N/A
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4.19.04
|
900 Football Links
(
Jaybird
: now 3 rds)
|
Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change
Now this is the way a mock should go! :)
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Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change, no change
was N/A
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Keyaron Fox
was N/A
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4.19.04
|
The Sports Genius
(J. Zenk) 4 rds
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change, no change
See comments above about Winslow
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Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
was Michael Jenkins, WR, OSU.;
was Donnell Washington, DT, Clemson;
was Sean Jones, S, Georgia;
was Donnell Washington, DT, Clem.;
was Michael Jenkins, WR, OSU
He's at least as good as Portis...still not Barry Sanders, so will
never be good enough for the fans.
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N/A
was Dwan Edwards, DT, Oregon St;
was Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue;
was Chad Lavalais, DT, LSU;
was Adrien Clarke, OG, Ohio St.;
was Darrion Scott, DE, Ohio St.
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4.18.04
|
Ahead of the Curve
(Frank Coyle)
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Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)
was Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma;
was DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech;
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami
Although it seems increasingly unlikely, I would love it if Taylor was here at #6.
Here's to hoping.
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N/A |
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4.18.04
|
Draft Daddy
(Bitonti)
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Roy Williams, WR, Texas
no change
First off with Sean Taylor still on the board, Roy doesn't seem a likely choice, IMO.
2nd although Roy has been gifted with a lot of athletic ability and size, he is missing a
key ingredient: the heart to make this tin-man legend a great player. I hope I'm wrong
about this because I keep hearing how much the Lions love Roy.
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Chris Perry, RB, UofM
was N/A
With TE Ben Watson, WR Michael Clayton, WR Devery Henderson,
& DT Darnell Dockett left on this draft board this doesn't make sense.
I just don't see Millen playing the homer, here. IMO, Perry isn't any better than Pinner.
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N/A
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4.18.04 |
Draft Daddy
(GH&H w/trades)
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Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was (w/Botonti) Roy Williams, WR, Texas
I think you know my opinion about Winslow.
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N/A
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N/A
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4.17.04
|
Ask The Commish
(
Paul Baitinger
)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean
Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
no change, no change
See comments above about Winslow.
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Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
was Lee Evans, WR, Wisconsin
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
With WR M. Clayton & TE Ben Troupe left on his board, I doubt Perry would
be picked. Even DE Jason Babin, LB Dontarrious Thomas, S Sean Jones,
LB Ted Lehman, & Justin Smiley could/should go before Perry for the Lions.
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N/A
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4.17.04
|
On The Clock
(OTC staff)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change,
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
Can I cry now?
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Greg Jones, RB, FSU;
no change
was Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.;
was N/A
Too late, I'm laughing so hard the tears are flowing anyway.
Ben Troupe, Vernon Carey, Jason Babin, Antwan Odom, Ahmad
Carroll, Darnell Dockett are generally considered 1st round talent,
though a couple might slip through. Lions will not pass up talent to
draft a limited RB.
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N/A
|
|
4.16.04
|
Niner Fanatic.com
(P. Toole)
Vs. 3
,
Vs. 4,
Vs. 5,
Vs. 6
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
was Kevin Jones, RB, V-Tech
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami, (fl);
no change
At least Taylor isn't on the board anymore. BKU is a better choice, but I'm sick of arguing it.
|
Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.
N/A;
no change,
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change
Vilma, Troupe, Dansby are first round talents the Lions would
be jumping on (Troupe only if Winslow not the pick, of course).
|
Bob Sanders, SS, Iowa State.
N/A
no change,
was Jacques Reeves, CB, Purdue;
was N/A
The main problem I have with Sanders is that he is worse in coverage than
Brian Walker. There are at least 7 other safeties I would take before him, and
according to this mock, I think half of them are available. Jauron would have
to give his thumbs up on this one, and I don't see it happening. Now, I admit I'm
swayed by the story by Tom K. that indicates they only want to keep 3 Safeties on
roster. Additionally, Jason Babin (whom they have shown interest in), Jack Grove,
Courtney Watson (whom they have shown interest in), and other higher rated guys
available when Lions pick make Bob Sanders a doubtful pick.
|
|
4.15.04
|
Draft Stud
(C Kohler)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Mike Williams, WR, USC;
Oh, boy, again.
|
N/A
Chris Perry, RB, UofM
|
N/A
|
|
4.15.04
|
Rob's Scouting.com
(Rob) 4 rds
|
Steven Jackson, RB, Oreg. St.
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change,
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
Steven Jackson is almost as bad as Kellen Winslow. Dumb and dumber.
|
Daryl Smith, ILB, Georgia Tech
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change,
was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama;
no change
Interesting pick. I'm not sure he would start over Earl Holmes at this
point but would replace Wali Ranier on depth chart. Still, I don't see Daryl
going before Chris Snee, Ben Troupe, Marcus Tubbs, Jason Babin or
Teddy Lehman.
|
Madieu Williams
was Demorrio Williams, LB, Nebraska
was Bobby McCray, DE, Florida
was Shaun Phillips, DE, Purdue;
was N/A
I really like Madieu and see him left off many mock drafts.
Sadly, however, the only way the Lions add another safety through the draft
is if he can replace one of the guys already on roster. I'm not sure
Madieu would be a replacement for anybody right now. There will likely be
a bigger steal at a position of need available, like WR Devard Darling,
OT Stacy Andrews, OT Kelly Butler, OC/OG Nick Leckey,
OLB Demorrio Williams, WR Ernest Wilford, DL Terry Johnson, RB Julius Jones.
All would be more likely picks than another FS.
|
|
4.14.04
|
The Huddle Report
(
Computer
) 7 rds
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami
was Mike Williams, WR, USC;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change,
was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)
Computer Alternatives based on need: LB DJ Williams (a little too high for him),
CB DeAngelo Hall (huh? CB is a need?), DT/DE Tommie Harris (Maybe if the Lions
think he's a DE), Jonathan Vilma (way too high for him here). I think the basic problem
is that their needs index is messed up. Lions need DE more than DT, OG more than CB,
and WR more than either.
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Greg Jones, RB, FSU.
no change
was Ahmad Carroll, CB, Arkansas;
Matt Ware, S, UCLA;
was Michael Turner, RB, Northern Illinois
Greg Jones is just not a good choice here, as I've said elsewhere. Computer
Alternatives based on need: OLB Michael Boulware, DT Dwan Edwards,
OC Jake Grove, OT Jacob Rogers. Okay, the messed up needs index put another DT as
an alternative when DE need is greater. I think WLB is okay unless somebody talented is too
good to pass up and IMO MLB is a greater need. WR is still a greater need over all these others.
And OT? Though OT is a possibility later on in the draft if he could contribute at OG, but picking an
OT this high (unless they think he's an unbelievalbe deal), seems a little messed up.
|
Devard Darling, WR, Washington St.
Chris Snee, OG, Boston College
was Keary Colbert, WR, USC;
no change, no change
Sweet to finally get a WR. But I just don't see Jason Babin still being there and I'm pretty
sure the Lions would pee their pants if he did. I guess I would rather see them take a WR
in the 2nd round (if there is one there that they like), so that they can
take LB Demorrio Williams in the third if he's there (I really like this kid). {There are some OGs
who I believe could still be starters who will be available in the fourth round. (If not, there
are a couple FAs that would be upgrades to Matt Joyce. Not Larry Allen for what he will cost!).
There are so many O-line guys that fall through the cracks because they're the unheralded
members of the team that I think you can find quality on the second day. Also,
LB Roderick Green, RB/WR Jason Geathers, or DT Ahmad Childress in the fourth/fifth
round area would be nice, too. FB Thomas Tepeh or Troy Fleming are guys I wouldn't
sneeze at either on the second day.}
|
|
4.12.04
|
The Huddle Report
(
Drew Boylhart
: 1 rd w/trades)
|
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
wasRobert Gallery, LT, Iowa;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
was Robert Gallery, LT, Iowa;
was Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas;
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
Well, I never said Drew was good at mocks. I respect
his profiles on players, but his picks for the Lions continue
to smell up the joint. With Taylor still on the board, I say "no way".
|
Terry Johnson, DT, Washington
was Chad Lavalais, DT, LSU;
was N/A
I belive Drew is under the impression that the Lions NEED to take
a DT. I like Tank, but not only does this seem high for him considering
the other d-linemen available, but players at other positions who are rated
much higher are still available in his mock; like Karlos Dansby, Ben Troupe,
Dontarrious Thomas, Devard Darling, & Jake Grove (to name a few)
I think they'll go BPA...and hope for a WR to slip to them at #36.
|
Jason Babin
was Julius
Jones, RB, Notre Dame;
was N/A
Babin would make sense for the Lions. Not only have they shown interest in him,
but he fills an area of need. Only problem is that he's not a sleeper pick anymore. Everybody
knows about him. Some experts have him as the 3rd or 4th best DE after Udeze and
Smith. Therefore, since he has been going in the first round of many mocks, I will guess
that he won't be available in the 3rd round. But Tank Johnson might be. Maybe Drew got the
two picks mixed up?
|
|
4.11.04
|
FriendlyBet.com
(Robinson)
also see
Sporting Search
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami, (fl);
no change, no change, no change
Nothing can save this draft for me if Winslow and Perry are the #1 & 2 picks.
|
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change, no change, no change,
no change, no change
|
N/A
|
|
4.11.04
|
Saints Revolution
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change, no change, no change.
See other Winslow comments (yawn).
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
|
4.10.04
|
Go Titans.com
|
Mike Williams, WR, USC;
no change...yet
I love Mike Williams and he would make sense here, if he somehow finds
himself eligible for this draft. I expect the titan mocker will change this shortly.
Unfortunately, they'll probably stuff Winslow into the spot like everyone else does. (sigh)
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
|
4.9.04
|
Draft Steel
(John Clifford)
|
Roy Williams, WR, Texas
@#16 SF trade: Reggie Williams, WR, Wash;
I think Roy is going to be a less dedicated duplicate of CRog,
and there are complimentary (tough, over the middle #2) WRs
who will be available in lower rounds. And are less expensive if they
bust (like I think Roy will). I'm not sure right now which one I dislike more,
Winslow or RWill. Udeze, Harris, Wilfork, & Will Smith would be my choices
at #6. But Vilma or DJ Williams, Kevin Jones, Ben Troupe, Reggie Williams
or Rashaun Woods would be good fits in a trade-down situation.
|
Ben Watson, TE, Georgia
no change
This is a great choice, especially if they pass on Winslow. Devery Henderson,
Teddy Lehman, Jason Babin, Sean Jones, Justin Smiley, Chris Snee, Donnell Washington,
are the only guys left on the board here who would make me pause before handing
in the card.
|
Tatum Bell, RB, Oklahoma St.
was Maurice Clarett, RB, xOhio St.
Again, he's a good pick for the Lions. A WR (Ernest Wilford, Keary Colbert,
Derrick Hamilton, Jerricho Cotchery, Bernard Berrian, etc) might also become a logical
choice here if they pass on the WR in the 1st & 2nd rounds. This might also be a good
place for a MLB (Darryl Smith, Rod Davis) or OL (Locklear, Peterman. Leckey, Stacy Andrews) to land.
|
|
4.7.04
|
Searles NFL Draft
(A Searles) 7rds
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change, no change,
was Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
Once again a mock drafter who has bought into the Winslow hype.
At least he knows they wouldn't take Winslow if Taylor were on the board.
|
Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.;
no change, no change,
was Ben Troupe, TE, Florida
Jones would almost be a worse pick than Perry, because at least Perry has some
versatility. (But for goodness sake, WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR!!!) Jones is one dimensional ... though the
one dimension is pretty impressive. Picking Jones ahead of Ben Watson/Ben Troupe,
Michael Clayton, Jason Babin, Vernon Carey, or Chris Snee will be a future lesson about
why you don't reach for need.
|
Bobby McCray, DE, Florida
was Jason Babin, DE, W. Michigan
was Igor Olshansky, DT, Oregon;
was Ben Watson, TE, Georgia
Are you kidding me? They bypass Udeze so they can pick up an overrated TE.
Then they bypass TEs of the same caliber as Winslow so they can pick up a pretty RB
who lacks stamina, then they pick a 1-dimensional whining DE? Domino reach,
domino reach, domino reach. And Justin Smiley is still available in the 3rd round?
Come on.
|
|
4.5.04
|
PhinZone.com
Mock
(Keith Box)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change
At this rate, the 2nd round might be the most interesting pick in this draft.
|
Chris Perry, RB, UofM
was N/A
Yuck. Over Ben Watson, Karlos Dansby, Teddy Lehman, Jake Grove, Michael Clayton?
|
Terry Johnson, DT, Washington
was N/A
I've seen worse picks than this. Tank could be a steal here.
|
|
4.4.04
|
Falkon Online
(Falkoni)
Cannot open page
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change, no change,
no change
|
Chris Perry, RB, UofM
no change
was N/A
|
N/A
|
|
4.4.04
|
Falkon Online
(
Lupagus
) 4 rds.
Cannot open page.
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
|
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change,
was N/A
|
Isaac Hilton, DE, Hampton
was N/A
|
|
4.3.04
|
Draftnet
(Mark)
|
Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)
no change
|
Lee Evans, WR, Wisconsin
|
N/A
|
|
4.1.04
|
The Draft eXchange
(Draftniks-Vs.
VI,
VII,
VIII,
eXperts) Expert=7rds
|
Mike Williams, WR, USC;
was Ben Troupe, TE, Florida;
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
was Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
was Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
|
Teddy Lehman, OLB, Oklahoma;
was Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.;
was Sean Jones, FS, Georgia;
was Karlos Dansby, OLB, Auburn;
was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama
|
Tyson Clabo, OG, Wake Forest;
was Devard Darling, WR, Wash. St.;
was Lamar Bryant, OG, Maryland;
no change, was N/A |
|
3.30.04
|
College Football News
(Pete Fiutak) Vs. 3
|
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami with
(Mike Williams as 2nd option);
no change
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
|
3.29.04
|
Hail Redskins
(
Ben Winslow)
|
Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
|
3.26.04
|
Haven's
World
(Moses)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
was Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
|
Karlos Dansby, LB, Auburn
was N/A
|
Julius Jones, RB, Notre Dame
was N/A
|
|
3.26.04 |
NFL
Draft World
(Patrick Wrede)
|
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;
was Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change;
was Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
|
Ben Troupe, TE, Fl;
was N/A;
was Greg Jones, RB, Florida St.;
was N/A
|
Jason Babin, DE, W. Mich.;
was N/A;
was Ben Watson, TE, Georgia;
was N/A
|
|
3.25.04
|
Chargers Insiders
(Lombardo) Vs. 2
|
Mike Williams, WR, USC
|
Bob Sanders, FS, Iowa
|
N/A
|
|
3.25.04
|
Drugstore List
(Jerry J.)
|
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
|
3.25.04
|
NFL
Draft Showcase
(
Allen Trieu
) 7 rds
|
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change
|
N/A
was Chris Perry, RB, UofM
|
N/A
was Shannon
Snell, G, Florida
|
|
3.25.04
|
Red Eye Sports
(Bob Henry)
Vs.1
,
Vs. 2
,
Vs. 3
|
Roy Williams, WR, Texas;
no change,
was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl)
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
3.22.04 |
Pittsburgh Live (Kucharski) |
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St; |
N/A |
N/A |
3.22.04 |
Stevenson's
Draft Notebook (Brian Stevenson) |
Steven
Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;no change, no change,
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech |
Teddy Lehman, OLB, Oklahoma;was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama;was Vernon Carey, OG, Miami (fl);
was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama |
Bob Sanders, S, Iowa;was Keary Colbert, WR, USC;was Darius
Watts, WR, Marshall;
was N/A |
3.21.04 |
Football.com
(DJ Boyer: Vs. 9.0)(see also SportzNuts) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change, no change;was Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl) |
Lee Evans, WR, Wisc;was Michael Clayton, WR, LSU;was Michael Jenkins, WR, Ohio St.
was Michael Boulware, LB, Florida St. |
Mewelde Moore, RB, Tulane;was N/A |
3.19.04 |
KAC Sports
(Crowley) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl) |
Greg Jones, RB, FSU |
N/A |
3.18.04 |
Hail
Redskins (Truant) |
Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl)was Kellen
Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);
no change |
Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma 2.28.04;was N/A |
N/A |
3.17.04 |
ProFootballTalk
Vs. 1, Vs. 2, Vs. 3 |
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;no change,was Tommie
Harris, DT, Oklahoma |
N/A |
N/A |
3.17.04 |
Sports
Dialogue.com (D Graves) Vs. 5 (says Vs. 4, but I know better) |
Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);was Sean
Taylor, S, Miami, (fl);
no change, no change, no change |
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
no change, no change, no change |
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;was N/A, no change;was Jared
Allen, DE, Idaho St.;
was N/A |
3.16.04 |
Couch Scout (Mike Mihalovich) |
Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pitts |
N/A |
N/A |
3.16.04 |
Patty's
GB Draft Sheet (Patty) |
Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change, no change |
Devery Henderson, WR, LSU;was Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama;
was Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue |
Travelle Wharton, OG, S.C.was Bo Schobel,
DE, TCU;was Marquis Cooper, OLB, Wash. |
3.15.04 |
Contract
Bud (Conn) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);no change, no change |
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;no change;was N/A |
N/A |
3.15.04 |
FootballsFuture.com (FF Staff) |
Sean Taylor, S, Miami (fl);was Kellen
Winslow, TE, Miami (fl);no change,
was Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma;
was Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech |
N/A |
N/A |
3.15.04 |
NFL Report.com |
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St;Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);was Steven
Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change |
N/A: Members only (boo, hiss)
|
N/A |
3.11.04 |
NFL Future.com (Ryan Conley) |
Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa;was Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech |
Chris Perry, RB, UofM;was Jacob Rogers, OL, USC |
N/A |
3.10?.04 |
Football.com
(JJ Pesavento) |
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St |
N/A |
N/A |
3.10.04 |
Pro Football Weekly (Nawrocki) |
Steven
Jackson, RB, Oregon St.; |
N/A |
N/A |
3.8.04 |
Football.com
(Mike
McCollom) |
Sean Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);was Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change |
N/A |
N/A |
3.7.04 |
Football Forecasters (JP Savage) Vs. 2.0 |
Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech |
N/A |
N/A |
3.2.04 |
NFL
Draft Blitz (Blitz staff) 7 rdsupdates available for $ (hahaha) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);no change,
was Roy Williams, WR, Texas |
Marcus Tubbs, DT, Texas;was Chris Perry, RB, UofM;
was Michael Turner, RB, North. Ill. |
Michael Turner, RB, Northern Illinois;was Bernard
Berrian, WR, Fresno St.;
was Keith Smith, CB, McNeese St. |
3.1.04 |
N2FL.com (Pernell)
|
Steven
Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
no change, no change |
N/A |
N/A |
|
2.29.04
|
900 Football Links
(Frank Speaks)
|
Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.;
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
2.29.04 |
The Fan Section
(Perrin, Tallen) |
Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;was Maurice
Clarett, RB, x-Ohio St. |
N/A |
N/A |
2.15.04 |
Hail
Redskins (Uri's) |
Kevin
Jones, RB, Virginia Tech;
no change |
Nathan Vasher, CB, Texas;
was Keiwan Ratliff, CB, Florida |
Jason
Shivers, S, Arizona St.;
was Max Starks, OT, Florida |
2.12.04 |
Football.com (Steve
Lassan) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl) |
N/A |
N/A |
2.8.04 |
Wrigley
Field NFL Draft (Vs.
2) |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl);
no change |
Michael Turner, RB, Northern
Illinois or
Keiwan Ratliff, CB, Florida;
was N/A |
N/A |
1.21.04 |
Mel Kiper's
Big Board (per TV Sr. Bowl) Free
Trial Insider Signup |
Sean
Taylor, FS, Miami (fl) |
N/A |
N/A |
